Also, record your practices. Nothing fancy, even a single room mic will do. Novice drummers have a tendency to play fill s faster than they think they actually are. Play back a recording and he'll soon realize he needs to slow things down.
Find a recording of said song with a constant tempo and have him listen to it 10 times a day for a week. Works for me anyway. The feel and speed of the song itself gets ingrained in the ol' noggin.
For me though, I need to listen to the song and do nothing else, otherwise it doesn't stick. Start new topic. Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2. Recommended Posts. Rock Posted July 4, Posted July 4, How can I confront and cure a drummer that speeds up during every song? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options Scoogs Posted July 4, Start him off slower.
Apr 13, 3. Posts: 2, Fire his butt. Apr 13, 4. Posts: I play in a band where the drummer is all over the map. It's his band. What do I care? He books the gigs and I get paid. The only time I get worried is when he thinks we should start doing battle of the bands and "Take a week off work so we can play in Nashville". I don't mind playing in a so so band in Indy. Not gonna take the show on the road though.
Apr 13, 5. Buy him a metronome? Apr 13, 6. Agreed, get him a metronome, many drummers use them live as well, not all of us have a built in metronome. Apr 13, 7. Age: 48 Posts: 1, Glare at him , if that doesn't work, I suggest keeping a few bottles of urine handy for idle threats!
Apr 13, 8. Posts: 26, Put him in the scuppers with a hose-pipe on him. Apr 13, 9. Here is a very difficult that I truly don't know the answer to. In my younger days, I never, ever played with a singer who wasn't always on pitch. What I see on YouTube shocks me. Just like exercising, drumming is a physical activity.
You don't see successful weight trainers walk into a gym and immediately start lifting their maximum weight. In the same token, you need to warm your body, arms, wrists, and hands up before you start laying the beats down. Feel free to stretch your arms to keep everything loose and practice some simple, yet helpful, rhythms to get your mind and wrists in the right spot.
For extra warm-up exercises and ideas, click here. Have you ever seen a baseball batter practicing with a weight around the meat of the bat? By practice swinging with the weight, the bat will naturally feel much lighter when they actually step into the batter's box. By using a heavier drumstick and starting to get a feel for doing quick rhythms, you will naturally feel less restrained and faster when returning to normal weight drumsticks during a performance or recording.
Important note: You don't want to over-do the heavy sticks here. First of all, you don't want to become too accustomed to the off-weight sticks, because then you will lose your touch with the lighter sticks. So many musicians never use a metronome and it just makes no sense.
It is an easy to use musical guide that will easily help you keep time and learn how to continue keeping time. The metronome can be paired with your exercises, practices, and even tip two with heavier sticks.
Metronomes are concise, measurable, and as you increase the BPM you can literally see your speed and comfort increase. Fun Tip : Don't waste time going out and buying a metronome. Whether you utilize a laptop or your phone, simply search "metronome" on Google and you will find a free embedded metronome at the top of your search. Awesome, right? Sometimes it's faster and you have to be able to fit that tempo like a glove.
That's why working on play fast but with control and also dead slow with control is important. Never focus on a "medium" tempo range. Try to cover as much as possible. If you sound like a drum machine, it's probably not grooving.
Does it make you want to move to it? Then it's got groove. That's my off-the-top-off-my-head interpretation. Carter is fast When I say grooving, generally, I mean playing what fits and what is needed for the song your playing, but also adding a new voice to the whole song, another element. But not too flashy over the top, just enough. I've got two theories.
One is that speed is an easy measure. It's harder to say that you are more technical than another drummer, but it's easier to say that you are faster. And when drummers get into an argument about their favorite drummer, Say Neil Pert and Mike Portnoy they would have a hard time arguing technique. So by using speed as the determining factor, they can proclaim a "winner". Second and to a lesser extent , with the proliferation of guitarists working with drum machines, the guitarists look at drums as fast or slow.
I used to spend a lot of time building up my double bass speed , but I never had a use for it with the bands I played in so I stopped working on it. I think it is amazing how fast some people can play, especially DrummerMom at 8 months pregnant!
I saw some of the "Fastest Hands" competition at the summer namm, and it was quite a display of technical prowess. Was it musical? No, but it was a bit entertaining. Like a giant universal magnet, speed drumming never seems to leave our conscious minds.
And since this thread seems to be shifting towards a WFD vibe, I thought I would attempt to give my two cents based on a series of observations from this and other sites. With that said, I hope some of you undersatnd that I have tried to keep an open mind about both sides of the speed drumming issue. Awhile back, I even allowed Exporter some room, until he completely self destructed, leading me to flame him too.
So I think it can be said that I have attempted a nonbiased approach. The general public loves the speed, and with that comes something that all of us high minded types fail to mention.
Yet, it is always in the back of our minds After all, there must be a reason why 40 year old men raise belts over their heads like professional wrestlers. It's all about money. I truly believe that much of the strong negative reaction by some on this forum is more an unconscious reaction to the general public even Modern Drummer's response to groups like WFD, and all of the endorsemnet angles that are tied into it. After all, our business is all about promotion, which eventually leads to an income trail.
This is why so many adults are involved. You can be the greatest percussionist in the world. But it means little if no one hears you. Mangini is currently the most requested drum clinician out there. Speed drumming is the primary reason for this.
Some of the younger guys previously mentioned within the context of recent PDF battles now get serious about their craft, then work up the speed drumming stuff to become recognized. With this angle, they get the kind of public attention that leads to the business security essential for a prolonged career in the music business. Here in western Pennsylvania I know of at least three young guys who are planning to drive all the way to Flint, Michigan to compete in a WFD event.
There is really only one reason for this. At present, endorsement angles currently favor faster drummers. Now imagine being a fine drummer and speed is not one of the stronger components of your arensal.
You are completely left out. And in the greater scheme of things, it is totally unfair. Such people need to realize that trends are what they are. If you don't like the current business angle, then everyone is free to come up with their own. This is what Boo McAffee a fine drummer by the way did, and it can be done again. After all look at What are the alternatives?
Well, Guitar Center Drumoffs used to be the point of discovery for the versatile set player. But in my estimation they have become among the most slanted, vague, and subjective in music history.
I finally stopped judging GC drumoffs. There was so much cheating going on amongst the judges voting for their students. I felt that the right people should win at least most of the time.
Unfortunately, I feel this seldom happens Tony Royster and a handful of others the notable exceptions. As I mentioned on another forum, during every one of my judging experiences, I was out voted by musical illiterates who were more impressed with stick twirling, tacky dramatics, and the screaming of the 50 people escorted in by the contestant.
I especialy grew tired of the growing habit of voting in the cute little 9 year old, who was always accompanied by a posse of shallow, opportunistic adults. All of the above is Exporter type stuff When it's just you and that drumometer thing and not wacked judges I can understand why this is the choice of the better undiscovered guys. This is why guys like me also a university recruiter go to the speed drumming events, and not the other stuff.
There are too many high end young percussionists going to these things for me to ignore them.
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